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1095767 No. 1095767 ID: e25c20

This is the continuation of the second chapter of the Chasing Shadows and Hunting Rats.

Chapter 1

https://questden.org/kusaba/quest/res/1067335.html

Chapter 2 part 1

https://questden.org/kusaba/quest/res/1082765.html

Discussion Thread

https://questden.org/kusaba/questdis/res/140583.html
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No. 1098404 ID: d0e338

Also reason why I am choosing to give armor and weapon over sending our goblins, if we send our troops and her father finds out, he will not be happy with us. At least with armor and weapon, it'll be harder to trace the source to us.
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No. 1098515 ID: dab87a

>>1098404 Eh, still could be traced but that's easily dealt with. "Oh yeah, she bought armor from us. We didn't ask why since you guys are warriors. Just figured she needed a good set since our smiths just do superlative jobs." Perhaps Gram could give advice while she's fitted.
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No. 1098611 ID: 2fa6b6
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1098611

Possible answers to the question that was asked:

A) Drink the potion.

B)Refuse it.

C) Take it but don't drink it.

D) Other suggestions.
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No. 1098614 ID: eb853d

Will trust Wormworks on this one. Doubt he'd get much out of botched negotiations.
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No. 1098617 ID: c5529d

Yeah drink it. After all, if we don't drink it, the tribe members will get suspicious of him
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No. 1098619 ID: 355e44

It would look odd for Bobbie to just take something from a supposed stranger, and this state of drunkenness can be used to cast suspicion on WW. Ask Nasty if you should trust this fellow, who hides behind a mask.
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No. 1098640 ID: 27fceb

No matter how much it would be funny to see Bobbie drunk during the negotiations, it would be for the best if we avoid that scenario. Take the drink
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No. 1098840 ID: 05aa5e
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1098840

Possible answers to the question that was asked:

A) Introduce yourself.

B) Shake his hand.

C) Spit in his face.

D) Other suggestions.
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No. 1098846 ID: 27fceb

Go with the A
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No. 1098861 ID: 355e44

A) unless you heard of any other customs of theirs you should be doing.
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No. 1098916 ID: 270e3b

Go with 1. Probably toss in a bit of flattery like "Your reputation of bravery precedes you" or stuff like that without sounding sycophantic because that will go bad.
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No. 1098945 ID: 6562c3

A. Also give a good word on her daughter by mentioning being impressed by her strength
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No. 1099024 ID: 9a1c51
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1099024

Possible answers to the question that was asked:

A) Do you usually hunt goblins?

B) What did the goblin do to deserve death?

C) This will make it difficult for us to work together.

D) Other suggestions.
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No. 1099031 ID: c5529d

B. Let's hear what he has to say. could be an evil goblin that deserved it.
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No. 1099035 ID: 355e44

B) having some trouble? brigands or thieves maybe?
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No. 1099037 ID: 27fceb

Go with A, we need to know if this is something that has been happening on multiple occasions.
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No. 1099040 ID: 501868

Steady on lassie. Our protection only applies to gobbos we command. So this was not one of ours. Pragmatically (and ruthlessly) this might actually be good because it may drive rival gobbos to join us. For protection from this.
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No. 1099041 ID: c5529d

>>1099040
A very good point!
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No. 1099351 ID: 150ac3
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1099351

Possible answers to the question that was asked:

A) Are you threatening me?

B) It won't come to that.

C) If you want to start a fight that will be a battle, one which you can't win.

D) Other suggestions.
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No. 1099356 ID: ec1d93

Killing one of our people would be declaration of war. By all means if you catch one of ours, return them to us and they will be punished to match their crime, including execution if warranted. And they could of course demand recompense from us.
But the execution of our citizens may only happen on our terms.

This courtesy of course we would extend to any of their people who got lost or kidnapped or whatever, and ended up in our territory.
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No. 1099359 ID: c5529d

I'd like to hear Gray opportunity's advice and plans on how we can go about doing this, even if we have to use fear to manipulate the goblins to join us.

right now, I'm thinking we should ask where these goblins are coming from. If these goblins are knowingly trespassing in their territory for food, they could be desperate enough to risk their lives for survival, which means they might be more willing to join with us if we were to relocate a lot of them to our territory so that the goblins can remain safe to thrive with better opportunity, while the Headsplitters won't have to worry about goblins invading their territory as much again.
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No. 1099363 ID: c5529d

Another possible idea if we want to go in a route that will make us appear stronger than we are, we can tell the headsplitters leader Heartbeat that you and your loyal subjects will go and deal with the invading goblins personally so that the headsplitters won't get invaded by goblins again, and then we secretly let the goblins join us and relocate them to our castle with better opportunity and shelter, and food. That way, we can appear strong to the headsplitters for being able to appear that we've taken down a majority of the entire goblin tribe, and the new goblins will live better lives in our castle while being loyal towards us to help strengthen our castle, and army.

If Heartbeat questions this wondering why we would fight other goblins if we have goblins on our side following us, we can explain that just like how there are good humans, and evil humans, there are good goblins, and bad goblins. If Heartbeat offers some of his hunters to help us, we can refuse by telling them that you need an element of surprise, and having a hunter will only raise the goblin's guard up or run away since they see the hunters as a threat. Plus you'd rather have the hunters keep all their focus on hunting for food instead of helping us deal with the problem. It'll also be a good way to prove yourselves to them too to show how strong you are.

Other than that, my answer will be B for the question
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No. 1099366 ID: 6ed133

He is bluffing, we all know that because of the curse he is not allowed to send his people to our castle. Call him out on his lie, tell him that it won't work for him to act though.
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No. 1099415 ID: 4492b6

>>1099359 >>1099363 From my broad strokes you have made a masterpiece.
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No. 1099490 ID: 65be43
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1099490

Possible answers to the question that was asked:

A) Greet the Leaf Leader.

B) Ask to buy the prisoner.

C) Ignore all the newcomers.

D) Other suggestions.
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No. 1099509 ID: 27fceb

Let's introduce ourselves to the Leaf Leader
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No. 1099514 ID: 355e44

B) I mean, if they don't want it. Just look at that hat! Maybe he really is a prince.
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No. 1099521 ID: de430b

C (for now.)

If we want to convince the goblins to join with us later, we can't be all chummy with them inf front of the goblin prince cause then the goblin prince won't trust us and see us as their enemies' ally after they caught him as a prisoner.

And buying him will just make them suspicious of us as we just told their leader we will deal with the goblins personally. Will be odd that we would want to buy one after saying we want to deal with them.
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No. 1099620 ID: 42c724

Either he's a fake which makes him useless or he's legit which gives us a power vacuum to fill. Prince implies a king/queen though. So who are these leaf people? Perhaps related to the druids?
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No. 1099745 ID: fffdf0
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1099745

Possible answers to the question that was asked:

A) Remain calm and see where this meeting will go.

B) Curse Heathbeath for this betrayal.

C) Share with everyone in this room just how much you hate humanity.

D) Other suggestions.
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No. 1099747 ID: 355e44

A) Let him make the first move, gauge how to respond.
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No. 1099751 ID: e5bbc1

A for now. I think Heartbeat is trying to get us to make amends in some way. For now, let's wait and see.

I wonder if Wormworks knew Iron was here this whole time.
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No. 1099765 ID: e2760c

Ooooooohhhhh! I just realizes, Iron being here is exactly why Wormworks turned Abdle gold, because then he will think Abdle is not with us, and his cat can search elsewhere for Abdle, probably steal our decoy (Yakbeet)

And I want to change my vote

D. Act sincere towards him. This will be a fun way to play mind games with him, and appear friendly in the eyes of the others so that if Iron dredge gets aggressive towards us, he will be seen as the rude one. Plus it will make you look confident.

Be like "Ahhhh... Iron Dredge, so glad we finally meet at last. Please sit down, we all got much business to discuss".
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No. 1099772 ID: 27fceb

Go with the C option, let's see how they all will react seeing you telling how you really feel
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No. 1099805 ID: 35419c

Please tell me we can speak to Gram from here. Our scouts would have a field day with this once he leaves. Perhaps we'd even pull off an assassination of dredge. Either way we are dealing with warriors so stay strong. Do not look weak at all. Just subtly act as if dredge is of lower status. Stay cool, see where this goes.
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No. 1099839 ID: 6ba765
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1099839

Possible answers to the question that was asked:

A) Remain silent.

B) Free parking space.

C) Try not to share with everyone in this room just how much you hate humanity.

D) Other suggestions.
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No. 1099840 ID: 5b1723

Dredge is digging his own grave. He either has to accept this or threaten conquering these guys. Should he threaten he'll drive them to our side. Let him dig. Don't stop an enemy when they're making a mistake.
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No. 1099844 ID: 355e44

A) let the humans bicker. Try to get a hint of what Heartbeat and Leaf Leader's agendas are.
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No. 1099865 ID: c5529d

Humans, right Bobbie? so annoying. But hey, that's politics for ya.

A for now, but this is an opportune moment here to pay close attention on everyone's agenda is, but also to see what makes them tick in an argument for when we need to talk our way to victory. Pay attention to how they are feeling, how they say things, and how they react to different moments in the conversation that we can exploit for later

Also, be sure to take a look at how the leaf leader and his servant are reacting to the argument. How are their reactions and facial expressions to certain moments? do they get annoyed? angered, worried, happy, indifferent? Just because they don't get involved in an argument, doesn't mean we can't find something about them that we can be informed about them, like their feelings to certain things.

But I will say that later, we will probably have to jump in the argument to calm down the situation to help Heartbeat out of it
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No. 1099923 ID: 27fceb

8 don't like it that the c option is a recurring motive, not to mention that the other suggestion has been wired. Bobbie are you feeling alright?
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No. 1099978 ID: 207b18
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1099978

Possible answers to the question that was asked:

A) Tell him that he is bluffing.

B) Take cover behind your chair.

C) Ignore how much you hate humanity.

D) Other suggestions.
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No. 1100030 ID: da40bf

Get ready to dodge if need be. "Even if you had good intentions rather than an avaricious desire for the castle, even if you did manage to end my existence, death would solve nothing. What future would you build Dredge? Do you even have a vision beyond my end?"
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No. 1100032 ID: c5529d

D, we will have to lie our way through by making them think that Abdle is not with us, since from their perception, it is only a gold apple that we have, while also playing into Heartbeat's fear of this becoming an escalation with the battles expanding to his territory.

Remind Iron Dredge that Heartbeat does not want to escalate the conflict and have his warriors dragged into this, and killing you here is a surefire way to have that happen, as for one thing, Abdle is not with you, as you knew something like this could happen. So killing you here will not stop your kingdom at all, nor will it solve anything for him as Abdle will still be alive and in control of things at your kingdom and the conflict won't stop. In fact, killing you here will only force Abdle's hand himself and escalate the conflict from possible misunderstanding.
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No. 1100037 ID: 6c233e

D) counter-bluff. "You know if it was that simple to defeat me, Ramming Rage would have done it."

Thank Heartbeat for going to the trouble of setting this up, but it seems that it was a waste of time.
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No. 1100040 ID: 27fceb

He is just trying to intimidate you, I don't think that he truly believes that he will be able to kill us with an axe swing. He is losing influence in this room and is desperate to take control in any way
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No. 1100113 ID: 6a5cc1
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1100113

Possible answers to the question that was asked:

A) Tell him that Abdle is here.

B) Tell him that Abdle is not here.

C) Tell him that it is none of his business.

D) Other suggestions.
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No. 1100127 ID: 682ca3

B. Like I said, this is likely why Wormworks turned him gold, to hide Abdle from Iron Dredge. So we gotta pretend hes not here.
Tell him the best thing about having two people ruling a kingdom is that one person can take care of business in one place, while the other can take care of other business in another place. But you do apologize that he couldnt be here today. So much to do, so little time.

This will make you appear responsible hardworking royals to Heartbeat and the leaf leader
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No. 1100130 ID: 682ca3

Alternatively, another idea could be D: tell him you won't answer his question about the demon apple until he answers your question he refused to answer. You are not giving answers willy-nilly that easily.

he did mention not wanting to answer our question to give us ammo against him, so it must be too important to not let us know.

Of course, we still won't let him know the truth that Abdle is with us. Instead, we can just tell him where the decoy is located at.
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No. 1100152 ID: b138f1

"One for one? We each have a question so we take turns." Give one of Will's responses.
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No. 1100154 ID: 6ed133

A fair exchange would be the best way to learn a little bit about him while answering his questions.
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No. 1100169 ID: 6c233e

>>1100127
I would second this
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No. 1100205 ID: 6a5cc1
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1100205

Possible answers to the question that was asked:

A) Answer his question.

B) Don't answer his question.

C) Try to change the subject.

D) Other suggestions.
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No. 1100220 ID: 9cf8d5

Well credit where it's due. Worthy goal to have people with destructive personalities be channeled to positive goals. We hope that you realize soon we are not a negative thing to be eliminated. Per your question Abdle is busy during these negotiations. Having co-rulers does mean things can be done in two places at once (zero lies even if it is very misleading - he's busy "changing" and the second sentence is just a fact but not in use). Just as you have a responsibility to your people so do we. So here's our followup. Since the castle was abandoned it would have dilapidated without people to maintain its status. We are doing you a free service and we would be willing to allow the landlord to visit freely so as to assure we are not up to no good. Why do you object to our tenancy and given our need for a place to stay do you have ideas for where we could go where our people would be safe as we would be in the castle?
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No. 1100223 ID: 6c233e

A) Abdle is busy with other matters, thats all. And for the record, we were sold the castle under false pretenses. If it hadn't appeared completely abandoned we wouldn't have taken it.
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No. 1100235 ID: 2e49be

A. Let him know the location of the decoy. Dont let him know Abdle is here. It will make Bobbie appear she is a woman of her word to everyone here

Here is the game plan, we have to pretend that we want to make ammends with iron Dredge, so try not to be too accusatory or confrontational. The goal is to make Heartbeat and leaf leader think we are the ones trying to make things work while Iron Dredge is being unreasonable and incompetent, and will make them trust us more if conflict inevitably does break out.

That said, say something along the lines of
"ah, so you forgive those who has committed evil acts and give them a second chance to redeem themselves for their actions by allowing them to work with you. That's honorable of you. In that case, you wouldnt be opposed to forgive us for our actions and allow us another chance to redeem ourselves by letting our two kingdoms to work together then?"

This might put him on the spot, if he declines, he shows himself to Leaf Leader and Heartbeat as a liar if hes willing to bring in and trust people who has done terrible deeds enough to get exiled but not us who had similarly done something evil in his eyes, and that he may have ulterior motives
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No. 1100329 ID: 27fceb

Tell him, we're not so different you and I.
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No. 1100353 ID: 8fff14
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1100353

Possible answers to the question that was asked:

A) Talk with Heartbeat.

B) Try to talk with Dredge.

C) The thought of hating humans is coming back.

D) Other suggestions.
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No. 1100355 ID: ad0f7c

Have you forgotten we are guests? We are only allowed to stay by the will of the one hosting us. Heartbeat he has respect for you so perhaps he'd be less opposed to proposals from you rather than us?
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No. 1100371 ID: 239831

Doing good so far, Bobbie. He gave us ammo to work with with his own lies if we want to show Heartbeat and Leaf Leader that Iron Dredge is untrustworthy to work with.

I think the direction we have to go now is to try and show that Iron Dredge have a more ulterior motive than just get rid of monsters, and there is something one of his followers did that proves that isn't just the case

Tell him "even if I did what you say and let my monster followers die and instead live with the peasants in the town in order to work with you, how can I trust you won't just attack the villagers after, especially when you had your cat theif terrorize them the other day? and might I add they are human villagers, not monsters. Is you refusing to settle our differences really all because you want to rid of my monsters living near the village? Or is that just an excuse and there something else you're purposely not revealing to us all here considering the fact you're harming the human villagers too?
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No. 1100374 ID: 27fceb

We got this negotiations in the bag, nobody likes Dredge and how things might play out he is not making it easy for himself to he more likeable.
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No. 1100380 ID: 6c233e

If he doesn't want to talk then so be it. Time to continue negotiating with Heartbeat. No doubt dredge will keep interrupting and making a nuisance of himself, but that just makes you look better.
If he tries to berate you anymore just tell him that you won't listen to someone who would ask you to betray your people.
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No. 1100403 ID: 01d95d
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1100403

Possible answers to the question that was asked:

A) ...............

B) ...............

C) ...............

D) No other suggestions.
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No. 1100404 ID: 6c233e

That's only a half truth. We threatened your son, but he went and got himself killed all on his own. Back alley doctors will do that to ya.

We won't apologize for defending ourselves, but it is regrettable how things turned out. He was a true warrior, defiant to the end. IF we can do anything to honor his memory please let us know.

(shouldn't mention this in front of dredge, but archer can corroborate our side of the story.)
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No. 1100419 ID: d8e7b9

Wow good thing we avoided credit in his death. So all we have to do is give our official line and...
>Option D
Hah well played DeVoid you glorious bastard, slightly railroad-y but good tension added. Well no suggestions to Bobbie? Fine. Wormworks you know our official line. Would you do the honors?
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No. 1100422 ID: 0d05ce

>>1100404
Sounds like the way to go,

But if we can't suggest this for some reason as D dictated, then the druid (wormworks) will have to help her out of this mess.

Wormworks, can you hear us? I think Bobbie is shocked into beinf speechless, so I would like for you to bring the Archer in and have him tell everyone what he witnessed in the exchange. Immediatly tell everyone you actually spoke with a witness (the archer) of what happened, and you can bring him in to speak about what he witnessed. Thanks.
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No. 1100430 ID: 0d05ce

>>1100419
This was a good idea too, though him speaking for us about what happened might make the others suspicious since he's pretending to be a druid of heatbeat in no way associated to us, which is why I am going in the direction of asking him to invite the archer un to speak for us as a witness.
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No. 1100444 ID: 27fceb

Bobbie you need to focus, snap out of this confusion right now. We need to deny the death of Ramming Rage don't lose the control of this negotiations.
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No. 1100447 ID: c5529d

y'know, I was doing some thinking, and I might be misremembering the curse, so correct me if I'm wrong: but what if the reason Iron Dredge thinks there is no curse is because he thinks Ramming Rage was killed by us during battle at our territory, and no curse happened since it was assumed fight that happened at our territory? might be something to keep in mind if true if he is confusing what happened there was a battle, and not a session of mind games like it actually was.

I'll end with some pep talk to Bobbie too, yes, this is a bad situation, but I will say with this path of becoming an overlord, there's going to be plenty of bad situations like this in the future, as well as good. And as far as this bad situation goes, while it is a curveball, it is not the worst situation as far as bad situations go. As one of us spirits said, you didn't take credit for his death earlier, so this situation could have actually gone a lot worse. Believe me, I've helped an extremely unlucky person before, and it was unbelievable the amount of trouble she couldn't get out of was. Compare to that, this is nothing more than a setback that we can easily get out of.

and if you need time to compose yourself, Wormworks, and hopefully maybe Archer even will vouch for you here.
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No. 1100451 ID: 1e46c7

>>1100430
Eh, he said he spoke to the villagers so he could have "heard" we denied credit for rage's death while there. Does explain why rage opted for diplomacy though. He feared the curse hitting his people.
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No. 1100462 ID: c5529d

good point.
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No. 1100522 ID: e12dd1
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1100522

Possible answers to the question that was asked:

A) Make it 500 coins and he is all yours.

B) He is not for sale!

C) It is up to him to choose that.

D) Other suggestions.
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No. 1100527 ID: c5529d

hmmmm... not voting yet as I want to hear what others say, but I'm thinking this could be a good opportunity for Victorio the archer to play double agent here, pretend he's joining Iron Dredge, and he can get a good idea of what Iron Dredge is planning on the inside. This is all considering he did Bobbie's test with the needle earlier.
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No. 1100530 ID: 6c233e

>>1100527
Dredge seems rather unhinged, I wouldn't expect archer to last long. Would probably be executed as an example weather dredge thinks he's sincere or not.

Lets not humor this rambling. Tell Dredge he should be making this offer to Archer, then walk away. Its up to Archer if he follows you or not.
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No. 1100566 ID: 27fceb

A) maybe we can sell him and when we beat his boss we get him back for free.
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No. 1100722 ID: 0588f8

Well wormworks blew his cover with the second part of what he said. First part may have been excused by saying he spoke with the now named follower of ours. Oh well. We know dredge does kill people who leave so no gambling with his life. "Do you see him as mere property dredge? We see him as a free being. We'll prove it too. He may think his life is worth a getting us a few coins. He'd be wrong. So he is yours for free if you convince him to join your side. Otherwise we have no deal. Let's see if his new life is worth more than you ever offered."
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No. 1100781 ID: 3ea4ff
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1100781

Possible answers to the question that was asked:

A) Deny that allegation.

B) Admit it.

C) Think of a lie.

D) Other suggestions.
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No. 1100783 ID: 94f70b

B) it's a simple precaution, taken not because he is human but because only a day before he loosed an arrow at her face. A precaution he agreed to, fully free to walk away.

(Now would be a great time, if you have a needle and good slight of hand, to pretend to remove the needle from his heart. A show of trust and goodwill, and it was all a bluff anyway so no advantage lost.)

(Say, I wonder if sharp fingernails count as a weapon to the curse. Can you just attempt to scratch someone to move your hand through them? Could be useful.)
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No. 1100784 ID: 395e7c

Oh you screwed up big dredge. "How misleading of you dredge. First we'd remove it if he decided to leave our service. Second he had the option to object when we did so. Did you object at all? Oh and here's a followup that would be very telling. Would you have allowed rage or dredge to do the exact same thing if they asked?
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No. 1100802 ID: c5529d

I think Heartbeat is too exhausted from these arguments that Iron Dredge has been trying to start, especially since Iron Dredge is inconsiderately using his son's death to paint him in a good light, and having an argument over this will probably piss off Heartbeat. Lets try to bring the floor back to Heartbeat by keeping this argument brief and to the point and immediately change the subject back to what Heartbeat was about to say.

Simply say that the archer did attack first, so it's common sense to want to take precautions like that. Can we please get back to what Heartbeat was going to say, he's our host after all.
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No. 1100962 ID: 27fceb

Tell Dredge that he was responsible for the death of Ramming Rage. We can use that lie like this: "When he wanted to leave Dredge didn't want for that to happen so he killed him."
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No. 1101016 ID: 3ea4ff
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1101016

Possible answers to the question that was asked:

A) Tell everyone in this room just how much you hate humanity.

B) Tell everyone in this room just how much you hate humanity.

C) Tell everyone in this room just how much you hate humanity.

D) No other suggestions.
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No. 1101017 ID: c5529d

We will really really need to have a sitdown talk with Bobbie and train her to keep her emotions under control once we get freetime.

But for right now, I think the Archer Victorio needs to step up now. we need him to immediately do something to interrupt Bobbie before she blows up on everyone

Victorio, can you hear us? I need you to defend your, and Bobbie's honor before she says something she might regret in her anger. If you've been listening, Dredge has earlier called you a "worthless human" when he tried to buy you off of Bobbie, and his wife has now been calling you "weak" You are none of those,

but where they see weakness, Bobbie saw strength in you, enough to have you join her. I want you to immediately speak out against the insults they said about you, and why you continue to follow Bobbie. And if you can, be assertive, and angered in your response, I need you to be angry in your response so Bobbie doesn't have to and can calm down, at least enough to regain her composure to make rational thoughts. Thanks, man.
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No. 1101028 ID: a2cc2c

I didn't know that the pyromancer was the wife of the Dredge, well at least that explains why Ramming didn't beat her up. I like Will-O'-Liquid's suggestion, Worm Works can you back up Victorio when he starts being angry? We need Bobbie to be distracted from her rage.
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No. 1101029 ID: 50a6fb

Oof it's bad if Gray is the one talking sense. Hey Vittorio. Should probably get to her questions now. Did you object to the needle? Would you let rage or dredge do the needle thing if they could and asked? Should that fail Bobbie could follow up with "Just because I dislike Humans means nothing. People who cooperate can hate the person they do a job with. Obviously because they get more done. Which means more for both."
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No. 1101043 ID: 6c233e

Dredge really do seem obsessed with human superiority. Something along the lines of "just because we aren't treating humans as some divine beings doesn't mean we hate them" would be a good counter.
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No. 1101129 ID: 9246cb
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1101129

Possible answers to the question that was asked:

A) Yes!

B) Yes yes.

C) Yeeeeeeeeeeeeees!

D) YESYESYEYSYEYSYEYSYES!

E) Yes......yes

F) .......no......

G) Yes!?

H) Yes!

I) Yes yes yes!
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No. 1101135 ID: c86a5c

...Victorio if you leave you'll have a Grand Marshal at your side... Just have this to say Bobbie. Hypocritical of you to eliminate untame humans (meaning ones you have no command of) for eliminating things they see as untamed. Such excessive hypocrisy is concerning. Won't dig you out of this one. Either you stop with the hypocrisy and dig yourself out of this hole or dig yourself too deep to leave.
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No. 1101137 ID: c5529d

Time to do damage control, and really really need to teach Bobbie meditation when we get back (if she survives), it'll do her good.

At least you got it out of your system (hopefully). So for now, for damage control, you'll just have to own up to it.

I think for now, E will have to do, as going with F will just make Bobbie at this point look like a pathetic liar, especially after she poured her heart and soul about wanting to kill humanity. With E, having the Ellipsis between "Yes......yes" at least implies that she doesn't necessarily want it to be the case, and she still wants her faith in humanity to be restored.

Bobbie needs to explain that she doesn't WANT this decision to be the case, but at this moment, she at least TRYING to see the good in humanity. However right now, Heartbeat and the Headsplitters killing all goblins on sight without actually talking it out with their leader like Heartbeat is trying to have her and Iron Dredge do, and Iron Dredge's insistence in wanting to kill all of monsterkind and not making any actual effort to try to talk things out and work out an agreement and instead try to make her out to be the most horrible person in the world is not making it easier for her.

She also needs to make it a point that maybe that's why she hired the archer in the first place, she wants to see that maybe just maybe, he can restore the faith in humanity that she lost one day, as she was human once too.

We'll also need to point out that if we can't work out a deal with Heartbeat because of her hatred with humanity, she has to at least try to have Heartbeat cut ties with Iron Dredge, cause having both of them work together against Bobbie is not going to go well. She needs to remind Heartbeat that although she's racist against humans, and if he can't work out some kind of deal with her because of it, she is not exactly sure how anyone can work with Iron Dredge as well, especially after he has shown that he has been untrustworthy, doing things like not telling Heartbeat about his son's passing until now when it's most convenient, and instead wanting him to send more people into his army, and having his minions doing horrible things to the village near the castle Bobbie resides in.
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No. 1101148 ID: 27fceb

Well Bobbie use this experience to reflect on your actions, your opponent got exactly what he wanted from you. He got inside your head and pushed you, do not let that happen again.
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No. 1101149 ID: 6c233e

What is your main goal Bobbie? Isn't it to protect your people? That's the only course that will get you out of this conversation looking like anything less than a genocidal maniac.

Worm Works, get that hand off your face. If you hadn't messed with Abdle we wouldn't be in this situation.
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No. 1101153 ID: 64b993

Agreed, please don't face palm, Wormworks. This will make things worse if they catch your actions and call you out and accuse you of working with us. We will help Bobbie out of this mess, don't worry. Iron Dredge made much more big mistakes in this meeting after all. This was only our first one all things considered

>If you hadn't messed with Abdle we wouldn't be in this situation.

Let's not play the blame game for now, directing anger on someone else instead of focusing on the problem is counterintuitive. Let's focus on the situation at hand. We can talk about the errors everyone made here after everything is done here, and how to proceed in the future
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No. 1101279 ID: 9246cb
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1101279

Possible answers to the question that was asked:

A) Agree with the Druid.

B) Disagree with the Druid.

C) Other suggestions.
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No. 1101282 ID: c5529d

golden opportunity you say, Wormworks?

Hmm... golden opportunity... Golden Abdle... Gray Opportunity... is Wormworks hinting at handing over the golden apple to Heartbeat to borrow as a show of "gratitude"?

Gray Opportunity can manipulate people that holds Abdle, we seen that happen to Nasty when she held him. Honestly I've been considering that idea for a while, but was too unsure, but it feels like the vibe is now that's the direction Wormworks wants us to take.

We have to not make it too obvious that Gray Opportunity will be manipulating Heartbeat though, like having Gray Opportunity make Heartbeat too agreeable with us, or downright reject Iron Dredge automatically, or else Iron Dredge might get suspicious of everything and the apple.

Gray opportunity can have Heartbeat return Abdle to us a little later after the meeting, and if that don't work, Wormworks can get him back for us, considering he's an undercover mole within the Headsplitters as a druid.

A (might actually be C): Show sign of gratitude by handing over the golden apple to Heartbeat as a gift to show appreciation for a second chance.

I mean, we did tell Nasty earlier it was going to be a gift for Heartbeat anyways
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No. 1101291 ID: 0e53e8

>>1101282 ...Well. Have been looking for a way to do this. Only one person here desires a fight which of course is dredge. Gray can you subtly -emphasis on subtle - point out this? Get a feel for how far he'd be willing to go to stop this? We are in his camp surrounded by his people. Just nudge him towards the obvious way to stop this. Just avoid going too fast because he may see what is going on if you do.
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No. 1101301 ID: 6c233e

This is a cockamamie scheme that puts Abdle at incredible risk.

Better to play dumb. Yes, a golden opportunity for a generous... trade deal!
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No. 1101350 ID: 27fceb

>>1101282
Maybe we can be a little bit subtle with our approach. Go for a handshake with Heartbeat and with your other hand put the golden apple in his pocket.
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No. 1101399 ID: 9246cb
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1101399

Possible answers to the question that was asked:

A) Do it.

B) Don't do it.

C) Other suggestions.
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No. 1101402 ID: 6f8677

Patience. For now. We suddenly bring up rage and her accusation of mind influence will have credence. So far dredge has dug his own grave and we've hardly had to provide the shovel. Subtlety is key here. Just make Bobbie's words look better and dredge's worse. He IS a self-admitted liar while Bobbie has spoke truth even when it was negative to do so. Just wait for dredge to screw up with his blustering and that's when to make a move on his mind.
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No. 1101413 ID: a2cc2c

We better not push our luck, we are in his mind that will give us a solid hint in which direction to push but not make it too obvious. For now, we wait and see what our opponent will do.
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No. 1101471 ID: 6c233e

Just knowing what he's thinking is enough. Assure him he doesn't need to pick a side, we simply don't want to fight. Let Dredge be the pushy one demanding action, just like he sent Rage into unnecessary conflict to then die.
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